Yeah... she would totally survived her tits out ! LMFAO... this commander is a joke anyway, the art is super cool and i love all the details you put in her pant ! that's so freaking amazing ! you're really talented
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH FemShep is a terrible example of a good female soldier, she's MaleShep reskinned with different romance options and a few different dialogue choices. Hell, most of her animations are even the same as his, including his creepy, manly run. Her armor is also terrible, armor should cover tatas, not contour to fit the tatas like a metal bra.
You obviously never seen all the armor. Some of the armor shows no breasts at all, Fore example, the Blood Dragon Armor doesn't contour her breasts [link] . Plus, Compared to Jack, Miranda, Samara, and Tali, she's a mother fucking tank. Hell, she wears more armor then Jacob.
And in ME 3, her hips shake when she walks. Quite heavily in fact. Her ass fucking shakes when she's on the citadel or Normandy. It's very apparent when she's in a dress.
Oh yes, the armor based on Dragon Age, not much actual made-for-the-game armor. You sure showed me. Just because the reskin isn't as lewd looking as her heavily sexualized counterparts, you say she's a muthafuckin tank. No, just no. IT'S NOT ABOUT HOW MUCH ARMOR SHE WEARS, IT'S ABOUT HOW IT LOOKS.
When she walks. When she runs, its exactly the same. I didn't even say every animation was the same, you fucking idiot, yet you're acting like I did.
The rosenkov materials, Ariake Technologies, and Hahne-Kedar chest plates also do not show breasts. I once again point to Jack, Miranda, and Samara. Have you seen what they wear? [link] - Jack [link] - Miranda [link] - Samara
Yeah, Shepard's armor has nothing on that. She doesn't show fucking cleavage in battle, which was the point I was making. Her skin doesn't show.
She's a fucking soldier. It's a pretty affective way to run. I actually run like that when I really need to move fast.
Once again, You don't know jack shit. How about doing research before you act like a fucking moron?
3 chestplates without tits are better than none, I suppose. I've played the games, I'm aware of what the scantly-clad trio wears, and it's ridiculous. But Shep's skintight, form-fighting armors(the majority of her armors) are barely better. Just because they don't show skin doesn't mean they're not sexualized. If that's the point you're trying to make, it's a shitty point.
Soldiers have hips, they are human fucking beings, their hips(male and female) would move slightly(Femshep especially, if her hips bounce so much as she walks). Shep's hips become stiff, it's not right. Your hips would move when you run, too, unless you awkwardly tried to force them to stop, which would probably slow you down.
Once again, you're blinded by fangirlism, fucking moron.
I don't mean to offend you or anything, and I know this is out of your own personal tastes, but I feel character designs should be whatever the creator wants them to be. After all, you have a choice whether or not to play the game don't you? Anyways, I always try to judge based on skill and technique rather than the design concept itself
Then that is your opinion, and is harmless. I feel that if it were to go to production it is unfair to not think about the audiences, and just the one, typical one, men. Women do play games too, and there are far too many games that are aimed at men, and women usually get facebook or mobile phone games. Which, is annoying.
Maybe if you played games you may understand where I was coming from.
I do play games, and I watch Extra-Credits, so I understand the frustration you feel when you see over-sexualized women; and I can relate to that. But, just try to leave him alone. Arguing with him anymore will just boost his ego.
what doesn't make any sense is your comment (no offense), neither you nor this character (nor valve female characters) represent all women, in real life there are women who like to wear anything as long as it is modest, women who like a specific style of clothing (modest or not) and women who just don't give a damn and like to wear anything that shows off their bodies (for various reasons) ... also ..when some female artist makes a gallery full of chest naked bishie guys you don't see guys complaining that it doesn't make any sense.
Please stop trying to tell artists what they should draw and shouldn't draw.
Last time i checked telling people it's WRONG to draw this or WRONG to draw that didn't count as criticism, i see a ton of stuff on DA that i don't like but i don't go around commenting on those works and telling the artists who drew them to draw this or that.
Real criticism needs to be well-thought and technical, other wise its a pointless waste of time, and makes you look like a jerk who is looking down on other people's works trying to teach them the RIGHT way to draw.
Pardon me, but freedom of speech does get abused like pretty much everything else nowadays, just spewing negativity over someone's work isn't criticism, criticism needs to be thoughtfully constructed and technical, not just random negativity.
If i hated a drawing and didn't like what it represents i steer clear from it becasue if i just ran around spewing negativity and forcing my viewpoint and tastes over others who draw stuff i don't like (don't draw that, this is wrong don't draw this, .. etc etc) i won't have time to do anything else, it's just idiotic and pointless and benefits no one.
Criticism is most useful when you really aim to benefit the person you are criticizing not bring them down, i.e .. if i see a young artist struggling with some aspect/s of his/her art i'd give subtle criticism to help them improve .. IMO abusing freedom speech and running around telling people what to draw and what not to draw is just silly and pointless.
Freedom of speech is right set up to prevent that anybody who disagrees with the established powers will be shut up and shot down. The freedom of speech is a right that is very much about allowing negativity also.
Besides, I think telling people that you think what they draw is ugly, wrong or even doesn't have the right to exist isn't a crime either. Actually it might serve some good, as it helps the artist not loose his or her grip on reality. If an artist only hears the praise about his work, he or she is likely to start believing to be a creative genius and invincible and all sorts of arrogant delusions. Being aware that there is also people who don't like what you do is a merit. It might help you realize you still need to improve on the one hand. On the other hand it might help you to really find your own values and believes and help you learn how to defend those and your art based on them.
And finally, I think the person who originally started all this wasn't just spewing negativity. I think she was doing something admirable by standing up and saying: This image of woman in games, it's offensive and sexist and it needs to change. And I believe in that too. The game branche should either stop sexualizing the women in their games like they do, or also sexualize the men. It's degrading to only have women as sexobjects. (And if this drawing was just for private use/pleasure, I wouldn't even have mind it. Yet this piece is clearly intended as part of a game developed for the public, which also makes it even more valid to have criticism based on personal taste and morality.)
I know what Freedom of Speech is, and trolling people with random/highly subjective negativity is abuse of that freedom .. and like i said, i didn't limit Freedom of Speech to praise or positivity, it includes criticism for sure .. an example to make my point clearer .. there is a huge difference between a person criticizing Obama because of his performance and policies and someone bashing Obama because he/she hates black people and think of them as inferior .. the first is giving valid criticism based on logical criteria, the second is a racist troll spewing obnoxious nonsense that's both pointless and unneeded (and constitutes a clear example of how some people abuse freedom of speech).
So for example if i don't like androgynous males does it make any sense for me to target artists who draw them and keep spewing negativity over their art "ewww, don't draw men like that" ... "aghhh, how is that even a man!!!" ... "*pukes*, that's disgusting, don't draw men like that, it's insulting" .. IMO this would be the most retarded and stupid thing to do, any sane person who doesn't like a certain subject or a certain representation of something usually chooses to avoid art related to that subject .. but people with big egos who think they are sooooo important are the ones who run around smacking people who draw stuff they don't like with negativity becasue they think they owe them something and that everyone needs to know what they think of said subject (which is retarded to even consider).
Liek i said, i welcome criticism if it's good-natured (doesn't reek of egotism and I'm-mighter-than-thou crap), well-constructed and technical .. i never said all the comments should only be praise .. praise .. praise .. i never said that.
As for women in art and gaming, i'm really tired of that close-minded feminist point of view that became popular lately, gaming and art in general objectify both males and females alike, there are countless androgynous males in Japanese video games and anime who have no other qualities other than their sparkling hair, deep eyes and handsome girly faces, equally there are countless muscle-bound bare-chested American comic and video-game heroes who are good at nothing other than tearing their foes apart with bullet streams or even bare hands reveling in extreme violence and getting covered in blood and sweat in the process .. yet all that is just fine somehow and isn't objectifying men .. heck even Greek art objectified both women and men, they obsessed over and idolized their perfect, nude, athletic body form ... yet you don't here anyone moaning around Greek art museums saying that they objectified men and women, becasue that's basically what art does .. art IMO objectifies people in all sorts of different ways for the pleasure of the viewer and obviously different people like to view different things, so no one really should bother with trying to stop other people from drawing or viewing what they want .. it's a pointless annoying waste of time to even try.
women have not been allowed in infantry for centuries, not here at least. if they were then it would not be a common occurance, but yes, some women would. would it be a smart thing to do, no, but unfortunately people in general are not known to do the smart thing.
what is and is not allowed rarely stops people in the military, lol. I once had to call the MPs because a couple soldiers upstairs had taken it upon themselves to test their bulletproof vests in the hallway with a 9mm. ask any grunt and he will tell you all kinds of stuff about honor, courage, integrity, initiative etc etc all the army values and ethos. that stuff is not all there is to it lol.
ask him to tell you stories about his buddies or crazy things he or his friends did in the military. its not all straight and arrow uber discipline rock solid hooah stuff like its usually made out to be. military has all that stuff yes but it also has its fair share of crazy, gotta balance the universe and stuff.
Go tell that to the women who wear clothes like that in real life if your are so keen on protecting the image of women, and the character isn't in the army, the title says "Urban Survivors", she is probably the leader of some rag-tag militia of survivors.
Also, trying to play art-police never works (unless it's something so extreme or overly offensive that breaks the rule of the site no one really cares what you think of someone's art) .. you are just wasting your time, there are women who draw female characters in much more erotic clothes and situations .. who exactly elected you are representative and protector of women's image in art .. chill out.
I have a point to make, unrelated to the whole feminist fiasco, so I'd like it if you didn't say anything about that. Her boobs popping out does not match the attire that is portrayed in this photo. I do believe it's pretty well drawn but she's dressed like it's the winter and it would make no sense for her to want to show off flesh outdoors, in the winter. I'd comment on how it also makes no sense to be some sort of leader in combat or whatever but I think this was just made for fanservice. Which I guess is what some other people have a problem with, for some reason.
Just a bit of fur lining doesn't mean this is strictly winter-gear or she is in winter (there are characters that wear clothes with fur lining just for fashion .. like Squall from FF8), besides showing off flesh is a personal thing that some characters just have as part of their personality (being sexy, badass and confident about their bodies) even if it might not make sense in real life (i,e Lara croft, Catwoman, .. ahm .. Red Sonja, .. etc etc).
That also has no impact on her role as leader of whatever militia or rag-tag group of soldiers she is leading, she can still shoot and kill effectively as she would if she was wearing heavy clothes ... showing some flesh won't suddenly make her unable to shoot and kill .. i understand your sentiment but it still doesn't add up.
Thanks for the time you took to write the comment.
lols, so it's a drawing of a woman who chose to wear a pink bra and show it off (and there are plenty in real-life), get over it already XD
Besides, can you get more hypocritical than this, i'm the one who is rambling about how I must be right and you must be wrong, really !!!, is that a joke .. because it isn't funny .. you are the one how came here acting all high-and-mighty to post a pointless comment telling the artist that what he is drawing is wrong and that he should draw what you think is right .. see, before you go telling people what to do and rambling about stuff you should look in the mirror first, it helps.